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The next episode of The Detour Degree drops June 10, 2025!!!

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The Detour Degree is an 8-episode summer vodcast that spotlights unconventional paths in education. From jazz-fueled STEM to VR classrooms and micro schools, each episode features disruptors reimagining how we teach and learn. It's for the rebels of the road less graded—where learning detours lead to powerful transformation.

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Episode I: The Sound of STEM

A Conversation with Stephanie Matthews about Jazz Lab™

Release Date: Tuesday, June 3, 2025, at 12 pm ET


Stephanie Matthews is the Executive Director of A Tribe for Jazz and creator of Jazz Lab™, a program fusing music, STEM, and emotional growth. A producer and award-winning photographer, she advances jazz through education, film, and innovation—driving equity and impact.


Jazz Lab™ Mobile Pilot
Powered by the Battelle Central Ohio STEM Grant


Jazz Lab™ Mobile is a traveling, hands-on STEM experience for students ages 9–14, blending music and science to inspire curiosity and creativity. Designed for elementary and middle school students, this innovative out-of-school program brings high-impact learning directly to communities with limited access to STEM resources.


  • Jazz Lab™ Webpage
  • WOSU Profile: Jazz Lab™


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Episode II: The harmony of hackathons

A Conversation with Chinat Yu about Hackathons

*Release Date: Thursday June 5, 2025, at 12 pm ET (Live session)


Chinat Yu is a researcher, educator, and founder passionate about reimagining education through generative AI and hands-on, project-based learning. He holds a master’s degree in Learning, Design and Technology from Stanford University and has led initiatives like Quest2Learn and MentorMates to help students learn by building. Chinat has spoken at AIxEducation and the Johns Hopkins DELTA Symposium, and was named a Top 50 MLH Hacker for his impact on student innovation.


Learn more about Chinat's work:


  • Quest2Learn: https://www.q2l.app/
  • Mentor Mates: https://www.mentor-mates.com/
  • MLH Top 50: https://top.mlh.io/2023/profiles/chinat-yu
  • Johns Hopkins Life Hacker: https://engineering.jhu.edu/magazine/2023/05/hopkins-life-hacker/
  • Johns Hopkins ITGL Hackathon: https://ventures.jhu.edu/news/pava-center-continues-to-deepen-relationship-with-the-school-of-education/
  • Stanford AI + Learning differences Hackathon: https://acceleratelearning.stanford.edu/conference/ai-learning-differences-hackathon/


Episode III: The melody of microschools

A Conversation with Kunal Dulal about Microschools

*Release Date: Thursday, June 10, 2025, at 12 pm ET (Live session)


Kunal Dalal is the Administrator of AI and Innovation at the Orange County Department of Education, supporting 28 school districts in integrating AI into K-12 education. A former wilderness guide, principal, and tech entrepreneur, he holds master’s degrees from Harvard and UC Berkeley. He founded the award-winning company Accidentally Extraordinary and later co-founded generativEDUCATION. Author of *The AI Parent*, Dalal champions human-centered AI in education. He sits on the Boys & Girls Clubs of Oakland board and has recently launched his new movement, AI Parentology, committed to using AI to elevate human potential in parenting and learning.



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